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[ 2nd Update! ] Dream Concert 2008 ~ Showcases Unnecessary Fan Behavior



FANCLUB DISPUTES CAUSES INJURIES

SpiderLiliez LiveJournal
By: SpiderLiliez
Photo: DNBN


As you know, the news and rumors concerning this issue is getting uglier and uglier by the day. Recent accounts are saying that it has gotten to a point where several fans even submitted to using violence against fans from other fan clubs.

There has been a report about an E.L.F. member being stabbed allegedly by a boy who was rumored to be a supporter of a female girl group (rumored to be SNSD). There have also been reports of other fights between different fan club members resulting to more injuries.

A fan who claimed he/she witnessed two (2) boys sitting in front of her, one boy was reportedly holding a knife that he was purposely showing off to other people of other fan clubs. Netizens are assuming that what has been done (the stabbing incident) was a payback for those they say at fault, blaming fans and sometimes artists all together.

Despite all the good bits that SBS aired yesterday on the Dream Concert broadcast, the whole event has already been tarnished. If you have been deeply troubled by all these reports, you don’t have to believe everything mentioned in this article. But one thing’s for sure, these fights between fan clubs is getting way out of hand.

Artists’ management companies (specifically SM Entertainment) can’t just sit around and not do something about it. After all, these official fan clubs were initially set upped by these companies. So really, they should have “a say” to all these fiasco. The artists themselves also have to advice their fan clubs, since they (the fans) will likely listen to them. Parents need to do something about it too.

In addition to this article, what we are showing you below are pictures of a boy holding what seemed to be a knife during the concert. We provided the link of the entry from a Korean blog relating these pictures, plus read the English translation ( see link below ).




LINK TO BLOG ENTRY IN KOREAN
http://tvzonebbs1.media.daum.net/griffin/do/photophoto/read


ENGLISH TRANSLATION
Translation credits to estellia @Soompi


Hello. I'm a Cassiopeian who went to DC yesterday.

I arrived too late yesterday so I had to sit in the 1st floor instead of the 3rd floor. At that time, Cassiopeia was doing their card section 'HI TVXQ <3'. Then at that time there were two guys behind me who said "If they're going to be crazy b****** then they should at least do it right." They're making a lot of noise' etc. They made some harsh comments. We didn't know who they were but just thought that they had no notion and we waited till the performances started.

After the performances started and during Bae Chi Gi's performance a lot of fans went to the VIP section the two guys were trying to get there too but when we told them not to, they just sat in the seats infront of us because of the people speaking about manners and such the performances were delayed and it came all the way to Epik High's performance. We cheered at the top of our voices.

Then next was SNSD's performances Cass and ELF on the 3rd floor, Triple on the 2nd floor, Wonderfuls on the 1st floor along with the majority of the other artists' fans stayed quiet for sometime and then shouted wonderful. Then my friend suddenly called me and said "Hey, one of the guys sitting in front of you took out a knife." I was shocked and looked at the guy. It was really a knife. Just that he looked like a student but had a knife gave me goosebumps. He didn't brandish it but he held it so that the Cass around him could see it and he sharpened the knife on the railing and made it so that we could see it. But where I sat was a large portion of the DBSK banner. I thought 'they wouldn't rip the banners that fans put together with lots of donations' positively.

Then suddenly the guy dropped the knife blade. I thought 'ah he finally came to' and cheered really hard for SuJu. SuJu finished their performances and DBSK's started. But then the two guys left. At the same time I had a feeling of relief thinking 'They must be going home', I was worried because there was a possibility that they had another knife. DBSK's performance ended successfully and the event ended successfully as well.

The fans around us left and we stayed behind and searched for the dropped knife just incase. But it wasn't there. My friend said "He first went down to retrieve the knife." Then the 3rd floor was singing 'Park YooChun was born to receive love' so we sang along. I completely forgot about it...

I was on my way home when I got a text from my dongsaeng. It said "Unni, they said somebody from ELF got stabbed with a knife." We remembered right then. The guys who were in front of us with the knife. We were shocked and confused. I'm not sure if the guy who was sitting in front of me was the person who stabbed the ELF member. But I had thought 'maybe just in-case' so I took pictures of the guy holding the knife with my cell. 



DREAM CONCERT 2008 ~ SHOWCASES UNNECESSARY FAN BEHAVIOR

SpiderLiliez LiveJournal
By: SpiderLiliez


Korea’s Dream Concert just finished a few hours later this evening (June 7, 2008). There seem to have been some bad incidents that have happened before and during the event. Some fans attending the concert appear to have another agenda than just watching their favorite artists on stage. These fans wanted show their disgust to other artists and their fan clubs, like messing up other fan clubs banners which also happened in last year's Asia Song Festival between TVXQ and FT Island fans.

Some fan reports that Girls Generation (SNSD) were repeatedly booed, and during their performances, they were not cheered on by most of the audience except for their fan club of course. Another incident involving SNSD fans and Super Junior’s E.L.F. fan club seem to have shocked some of the audience as well as netizens. Some Super Junior fans who were in the second level reportedly poured water on some SNSD fans who were seated below. While recent accounts claim that some fan club members tore banners created by other fan clubs.

From these recent reports, the event sounded very chaotic. Reports of fans jumping off the barriers who wanted to get close on the stage delayed the concert for about 30 minutes. These kind of fan behavior seem to be everywhere during events like these and it's getting worse. Whether if its all true or not, we still need to get confirmations of all these rumors.

Meanwhile favorites Dong Bang Shin Ki (TVXQ) performed their hit single "Purple Line" wearing silver and white costumes. Fans admit its refreshing seeing them performing in their white outfits. They sang live, which is awesome because when not in Japan they usually lip sync their SMP songs in big events like these in Korea.

If you were unable to attend the concert or unable watch the delayed telecast at Pandora TV, you can still catch it on SBS today (June 8). The show starts at 3:30pm to 5:10pm (Korea time). Originally the concert was three (3) hours long but SBS will broadcast the event for just 1 hour and 40 minutes which means some performances might be edited out. If you have cable and have the channel, good for you, if not you can always try watching at TVAnts ( click here ).


WATCH FANCAMS

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dream+concert+2008



Dream Concert 2008

http://www.dreamconcert.kr



SpiderLiliez
http://spiderliliez.livejournal.com



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[info]kuronology
2008-06-07 04:21 pm UTC (link)
*sighs*

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[info]sugarwarrior
2008-06-07 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Holy crap... :x WOW. This isn't something new though [?] I've heard of lots of these kind of stuff happening among the Korean fans, while the Japanese fans are very respective and quiet. :S Well, I'm not Korean or Japanese, but I feel a little ashamed that the other ELFs just shamelessly did these stuff... o__o;;
*sighs*

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[info]blaisepaige
2008-06-07 04:33 pm UTC (link)
Found this link by RoxiahS2 at Youtube. It was taken during SNSD's performance. The other fan clubs allegedly turned off their lightsticks that's why the gallery looked dark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLxu37c1Tmk

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[info]spiderliliez
2008-06-07 04:40 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, heard about that earlier.
So the boycotting SNSD was really true. Poor girls.

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[info]dilya_007
2008-06-08 12:53 am UTC (link)
wow!!!! that's amazing O_O... the whole place is boycoting them *impressed* but i couldn't hear any BOOO o_O...

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[info]blaisepaige
2008-06-08 09:54 am UTC (link)
This is the fancam of the booing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2kAOwVqNyQ

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[info]dilya_007
2008-06-08 01:47 pm UTC (link)
THANK u!!! i really wanted to see that ^^
well that wasn't so bad as i expected it to be though...

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[info]guccha
2008-06-07 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Not only did ELF boycott their favorite group but another group entirely.

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[info]clicheterms
2008-06-07 11:26 pm UTC (link)
i don't understand why they're all hating on soshi. is it still 'cause of the junsu/junjin/hyesung/kimjisuk thing?

<3 tiffo

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[info]dilya_007
2008-06-08 12:49 am UTC (link)
no Tiff made some bad comments about SuJu & etc

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[info]clicheterms
2008-06-08 01:01 am UTC (link)
did she? what, may i ask, did she supposedly say?

<3 tiffo

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[info]dilya_007
2008-06-08 01:26 pm UTC (link)
From what i heard she said that some SuJu members can't dance & sing, then she said something against SS51 (i dunno what she said exactly, i just know that ELF started all this boycoting thing after she said something against SuJu members)

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[info]clicheterms
2008-06-08 04:57 pm UTC (link)
i don't believe that. i mean, she may look like a huge airhead, but she seriously can't be that stupid.

<3 tiffo

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i do...
[info]ahuneepetskee
2008-07-06 12:54 am UTC (link)
SNSD is just a TH girl group... trying hard to look cute... but sadly no pretty faces at all... according to my Korean friends also, their faces are just ordinary Korean faces...many issues right now against them cause of their unpleasant attitude or whatsoever... only SNSD is a Korean group i don't like.

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but i still don't.
[info]clicheterms
2008-07-06 05:33 am UTC (link)
trying hard to look their concept? you can say that about all groups, boy or girl. and why does it matter whether or not they're pretty? they've strong voices. besides, some groups really only have one traditionally pretty face, but no one's hating on them 'cause they don't get to hang out w. everyone's beloved oppadeul. it's not about their behaviour. half of the haters hardly paid any attention to the group until this whole issue blew up.

<3 tiffo

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they're just not attractive to most of the people...
(Anonymous)
2008-07-06 07:09 am UTC (link)
...yeah.. whether SNSD haters or not... they're not attractive, simple as that.. strong voice they got isn't as much as the other singers' in korea. :) i'm saying that they're trying to look cute or pretty...according to my korean friends and kor people i know, they're "nothing" in kor music...that's their comment as well, meaning they're not an attractive group in korea, regardless of their strong voices or what they do.

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they're just not attractive to most of the people...
[info]ahuneepetskee
2008-07-06 07:11 am UTC (link)
...yeah.. whether SNSD haters or not... they're not attractive, simple as that.. strong voice they got isn't as much as the other singers' in korea. :) i'm saying that they're trying to look cute or pretty...according to my korean friends and kor people i know, they're "nothing" in kor music...that's their comment as well, meaning they're not an attractive group in korea, regardless of their strong voices or what they do.

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Re: they're just not attractive to most of the people...
[info]clicheterms
2008-07-06 06:26 pm UTC (link)
i find them attractive, moreso than a lot of other girl groups anyway. and according to my korean friends and the korean people i know, they're not everyone's favourite group, but they're pretty damn popular. that's not a reason to openly bash them.

<3 tiffo

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awww...
[info]ahuneepetskee
2008-07-06 10:41 pm UTC (link)
honestly, I'm very sad about the behaviour of the people at the dream concert, yeah that's not a reason to openly bash them but i guess a lot of people did that cos they just wanted to for sooo many reasons, they're infamous as many people say ...haters of SNSD or not, they just don't support that girl group... and as for me, i just don't like them. too shallow group compare to the others, for me. my opinion. peace out, tiffany fan ^_^

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[info]dilya_007
2008-06-08 12:48 am UTC (link)
they edited all the boo-ing part, we couldn't see that unfortunately *__* but some fans said that the fans were singing Wonder Girls songs during SNSD peformance!

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(Anonymous)
2008-06-08 02:19 am UTC (link)
ohh.they really did that!! i thought it was just a rumor..well..yeah..i'm impressed..yeah..they were also chanting woder girls! when snsd perform..

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[info]henrysminihompy
2008-06-08 03:11 am UTC (link)
lol I don't like snsd much (coz wonder girls > everything female group) but you have no freakin' idea how hard I was laughing at the ELFs and their water ahaahha.

Some part of me is like happy that SNSD got booed, but some part of me thought that these people are silly enough to actually start nonsense on PURPOSE - which is a total WTFH thing to do.

Maybe the fans don't need things like lightsticks and banners and stuff to support their artists...

they just need to be sedated for free - pre and post concert.

Aiya.

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[info]mitzlanuza
2008-06-08 07:01 am UTC (link)
My friends and I were chatting while watching the damned pandora streaming, and someone said that some anti's threw bottle caps at snsd fans. >_< that may prolly be a rumor, but GEEEEZ WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE HATERS?

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[info]melt_thesugar
2008-06-08 08:14 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the link to tvants!
Cause of that I managed to catch some parts of Dream concert :D
It really made my day :) Suju H is too cool.

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[info]jo_jo_jooo
2008-06-08 09:47 pm UTC (link)
I haven't been here in ages, but I knew I could come to you guys for the most recent updates and "problems" that are happening. =)
You guys are awesome because you keep me up to date! Thanks!

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[info]spiderliliez
2008-06-09 12:49 am UTC (link)
Honestly, I still can't believe all this is happening.
Though I know Koreans can be quite crazy when it comes to their idols.

But this (hurting and stabbing) came as a surprise.

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(Anonymous)
2008-06-09 01:18 am UTC (link)
Here's something from an injured ELF.
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7269/klff1qa8.jpg

Translation to the picture of the girl with a broken leg:

"I wasn't going to post this picture up.
But the Soshi boy-fans...hahahaha... said there was no evidence
I'm wearing crutches..hahahaha...how about this
If you say that I'm still lying, I might as well put up my medical examination
You guys should really keep you integrity...hahahahaha
If I had the heart, I'd like to post my phone number and talk with you via video?
But my cell phone is currently messed up ...hahahaha"

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[info]spiderliliez
2008-06-09 01:38 am UTC (link)
Many thanks for translating that.
I was wondering earlier what those pictures were all about.

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[info]spiderliliez
2008-06-09 01:41 am UTC (link)
Image shared by (Anonymous) user above.
You can read the translation posted here in the comments section.

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[info]storm_andstress
2008-06-09 04:58 am UTC (link)
Rationalise, people.

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Too Lazy To Sign In (Sorry)
(Anonymous)
2008-06-10 07:51 am UTC (link)
I read that you said that Fany said something about SUJU...Is that TRUE?

For some reason i thought SUJU and SNSD were close, considering that Sunny DJs with Sungminnie and Yoona was featured in 378178 of their MVs.

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Re: Too Lazy To Sign In (Sorry)
[info]ahuneepetskee
2008-07-06 12:47 am UTC (link)
SNSD.. the insecure girl-group .. and that is that.

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Aww man
(Anonymous)
2008-06-10 10:45 am UTC (link)
I understand that the fans were insane but WHAT ARE THE ARTISTS DOING?????

I'm really mad that SNSD did nothing to stop their fans from harming others! I heard that they nodded their head to their fans to rape other artist's fans.

I MEAN WHY?????

THEY SHOULD STOP THEIR FANS IF THEY'RE SANE.

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Re: Aww man
(Anonymous)
2008-06-10 08:21 pm UTC (link)
YEAHHH!!
snsd SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!
Why on earth would snsd fans rip super junior's banner??
ELF really lovs suju so they all put together there money to pay for the banner!!
I really love super junior no matter what!!
why ruin SM?

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Re: Aww man
[info]ahuneepetskee
2008-07-06 12:46 am UTC (link)
SNSD and their fans soooo bitter...

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awww..
[info]ahuneepetskee
2008-07-06 12:45 am UTC (link)
i'm very sad for the fans' behaviour but i'm kinda happy because SNSD is a trying-hard group for me.. a shame on korean music industry... no pretty faces at all, not talented enough and the attitude they got.. waaah.. i call that KARMA.

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